По поводу Антестора: я так думаю, что они отступники т.к. в последнем альбоме они только и поют о том, что ищут правду о Боге,
постоянно сомневаются. А в песне Via Dolorosa (это меня вообще убило наповал) он поет (отрывок) : I've wasted my life for you
My hate you create
My blood is water
my life means nothing
my warmth has vanished
--------- Перевод
Я впустую потратил свою жизнь на тебя
Ты порождаешь мою ненависть
Моя кровь - вода
Моя жизнь ничего не значит
Моя теплота исчезла
***
Your ideals are wicked and deceiving
how can you find peace
you seek the righteous, but find the void
------Перевод
Твои идеалы злы и обманчивы
Как ты можешь найти мир
Ты ищешь праведность, но находишь пустоту
Я буду писать отрывки с песен которые меня больше всего удивили ( *** - разделитель текста одной и той же песни, ---> - мой комент )
Вот еще урывки с песни Betrayed (была моей любимой до того как я прочитал текст) :
Will suicide break the ring of curse
Tomorrow I'll be gone, so don't look for me
I am lying on my death-bed, with chaos in my mind
My life took more than it gave
Betrayed and deceived I will now pass away
And with the gun in my hand, my questions
Are soon to be answered
---------Перевод (перевожу дословно не везде, поэтому стараюсь передать смысл в более понятной форме)
Пусть суицид разрушит кольцо проклятия
Завтра я уйду, так что не ищите меня
Я лежу на смертном ложе, в моих мыслях хаос
Моя жизнь взяла больше, чем дала
Преданный и обманутый я теперь скончаюсь
И с оружием в руке, мои вопросы должны быть отвечены
*** Кусочек с той же песни
Satan and god, the thought passes my mind
Heaven and hell, it's not up to me
If the Christians that I've seen
Represent the true God of heaven
Then it's not a place that I want to be
But if I'm blinded, please open my eyes
And help my now...
---------Перевод
Сатана и Бог, пролетела мысль
Рай и Ад, это не мое дело
Если христиане которых я видел
Представляют настоящего Бога Небес
Значит это не то место где бы я хотел быть
Но если я слеп, пожалуйста откройте мне глаза
И помогите мне...
----> Этот отрывок подтверждает что они находятся в заблуждении, то, что они не имеют понятия о том что суицид - это и есть проклятие и прямая дорога в Ад, и, также, что они не хотят в такой Рай каким он являеться на самом деле
Кусочек с песни As I Die:
Death is my goal / Death, set me free
In my living hell, I can no longer be
Please bring me back home
Where I can be free
---------Перевод
Смерть - моя цель/ Смерть сделает меня свободным (освободит меня)
В моей адской жизни я больше немогу находиться
Пожалуйста, забери меня домой
Где я смогу быть свободным...
----> Смерть его цель... хм... Жизнь дана нам чтобы радоваться и жить служа Богу, а не стремиться побыстрее лишиться ее (как говориться: Бог дал - Бог взял, у каждого свой час)
Короче, в каждой песне можно проследить явный бунт против Бога и сомнения по поводу Его существования. Вот так вот люди задумайтесь! И вообще не советую Вам слушать какие-либо христианские песни, не читая их лирики.
P.S. Напечатал перевод не всех отрывков которые меня интересуют т.к. нет времени, будет время - напишу.
Добавлено (18-Апр-2008, 17.59.20)
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Кстати, вот полная лирика альбома Forsaken:
1. Rites Of Death
Rites of death
Rites of undeath
We're falling
We're falling down
I told you we're into deep
Transfer life into what's dead
The act of human playing God
Redoing the acts of medieval
Witchcraft and the worship of dead
We're falling, we're falling down
From our throne, so supposedly high
When we confront the power great
The might of our own creator
Transfer life into what's dead
The act of human playing God
The rites of undeath
Is the testament of our own death
2. Old Times Cruelty
Enter the halls of distant memory
Feel your previous actions once again
Your lies and deceit
Your hate and long lost love
Walk through the hallway of you past
Sense the evil like a whip from beyond
The doors keep on forever
Possibility is endless
Wander through one of the bronzecovered doors
And feel the weaves of old times cruelty
Run from the darkness, the endless void
And get yourself cornered by the demons of fear
Running and screaming through these ancient halls
The presence of something unseen carries on
Of old time cruelty
the past haunts you
of old times cruelty
...save me...
The regrets of all actions that you've done before
has now turned it's way back to you
The demons from the past haunts your soul
Walk through the hallway of your past
sense the evil, like a whip from beyond
the doors keep on forever
possibility is endless
3. Via Dolorosa
Your ideals are wicked and deceiving
how can you find peace
you seek the righteous, but find the void
Die by the sword of live by the book
Glimpse your death within the scunt
seek the righteous, find the truth
the book of eternal youth
Of generations
cold as stone, you wander still
awaiting your inevitable death
your quest has ended where it began
But is there really a life for me
is there a place to dwell
pleasures of the flesh
vio dolorosa
Of fear and despair, you've wandered
of hatred and grief, you've slaughtered
I've seen you in your darkest hour
I know you as myself
But is there really a life for me...
Via dolorosa, memento mori
In you I've found my nothing
in you I can't hide my pain
in you my love has gone
in you I've kept my cold
Captor of sin, you've stolen my past
via dolorosa
I've wasted my life for you
My hate you create
My blood is water
my life means nothing
my warmth has vanished
4. Raade
[instrumental]
5. The Crown I Carry
The grip no longer holds
When passion abandons
The bonds no longer clutch
And the rope screams you name
A path of daggers
But where to step
A hallway of illusions
Of what was
Duty heavy as a mountain
The battle draws near
Your shoulders carry many
Still death seems remarkably void
You wonder fate in lack of faith
What you consider luck, may be God's will
A wanderer of the light will never die
Before God gives his approval
A path of daggers...
The crown I carry as an aura above me
Is the proof of who my saviour truly is
My mute cries overheard
My blindness is seen
My tears washed away
My feebleness became my strength
Duty heavy as a mountain
The battle draws hear
Your shoulders carry many
Still death seems remarkably void
You wonder fate in lack of faith what you consider luck, may be Gods wil
A wanderer of the light will never die
Before God gives his approval
A path of daggers...
When love is lost, only hate will remain
6. Betrayed
I am in pain
I am... the cursed one
Life is not what it was meant to be
What I didn't ask for has now turned my way
Somewhere in a garden it all turned wrong
Things I once believed in have now turned evil
Yet I pray, "Deliver me from evil"
But another spell pulled me away
Will suicide break the ring of curse
Tomorrow I'll be gone, so don't look for me
I am lying on my death-bed, with chaos in my mind
My life took more than it gave
Betrayed and deceived I will now pass away
And with the gun in my hand, my questions
Are soon to be answered
Will suicide break the ring of cure...
Satan and god, the thought passes my mind
Heaven and hell, it's not up to me
If the Christians that I've seen
Represent the true God of heaven
Then it's not a place that I want to be
But if I'm blinded, please open my eyes
And help my now...
Will suicide break the ring of cure
Tomorrow I'll be gone, then you'll be all alone
7. Vale Of Tears
The assembler of souls absorbs all within his reach
His seemingly perpetual glance of doom
Would even make the smallest of serenities breach
As he rides he wind being the ghost of gloom
Running darkness all around
A knife in her hand
Fall, rising, screaming the name of her beloved
So weak, and so weary
Something blackening her thoughts
A cloud, a force, a weight
Finding her true love lying in red
Is this reality or just a vision in her head
To be the knife as well as the wound
Is all that concerns her
Overwhelmed by a burden, like hordes of fear
The obscurity of the vale of tears
Grasping for safety, which lies all so near
Incresent malice of the vale of tears
Wandering oblivious in the foggy twilight
Shades of an obelisk shines so bright
Incredulous thoughts, bewildering her mind
Is there really a god to find
Halting through the darkest of forests
The obese and extraneous at her tail
This haunting, lingering to the extreme
She is about to quail
Then a formless mass of black, went skyward
Stars began to fade behind a veil of dark blue velvet
She stopped, she listened, nothing
Silence, an eternity passed
The silhouettes of something unseen, a presence
8. The Return
The art of the Y
Is the excellence of X
Corroding is for autumn
Renewing is for spring
The art of the Y
Is the excellence of X
Corroding is for autumn
Renewing is for spring
Recovering of the dead
Impossible for the living
The making of a copy
Is destruction of mankind
The earth is in it's autumn
The leaves have hit the ground
Corroding this earth is dying
Not knowing, you'll face the end
The coming of Christ
Is the return of X
The art of the Y
Is in the new spring
9. As I Die
My hands in the open wound
The knife clutches near
The blood of my veins spread out
My flesh become soiled
This desperate act of loss
The pain of knowing why
My mind slips into a blur
Upcoming questions... as I die
Forever in search of the truth
I find myself puzzled
Don't you feel the urge
The passionate flow
The endless collision
Of purity and evil
Since we're of the flesh
We are to realize
That mankind must end
If purity will prevail
Forever in search of the truth
I find myself puzzled
... as I die
Don't you feel the urge
The passionate flow
The endless collision
Of purity and evil
Since we're of the flesh
We are to realize
That mankind must end
If purity will prevail
Death is my goal / Death, set me free
In my living hell, I can no longer be
Please bring me back home
Where I can be free
10. Mitt Hjerte
[instrumental]